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August 6, 2010

Plato's Secret

Plato's caveThe Gods on Mount Olympus don't rule the world. Science does. But Plato couldn't say that in ancient Greece without a good chance of being put to death. So Plato did a sensible thing: he hid his secret, using musical codes, inside his already magnificent philosophical construction, a philosophy that became the cornerstone of western thought. Some of his contemporaries were privy to his secret knowledge but over the centuries it was lost. Rediscovered recently by Dr. Jay Kennedy, Plato's faith in science sheds new light on the origins of modernity. Total runtime forty minutes. Mysticism and logic ring free. ♪

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Enjoyed becoming acquainted with Dr. Jay Kennedy's fascinating work — although had wished we could have learned a bit more about him.

Revealed at his website, he has quite a range of unusual experiences that were hardly touched on in the podcast.

It would have been interesting, for example, to get his thoughts about the recent BP disaster, as he had once worked on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

Allusions to Leo Strauss and the Chicago School of Economics might have been better clarified by uttering the word "neocon" — one that seems to be slipping from general vocabulary these days when allusions and coding might become a better way to survive. Or not — possibly am just wanting to sound clever — or offer some food for thought.

Cheers.

I wonder if Kennedy knows about James Fetzer, a former Marine who is an expert in the history of science and philosophy... or of Dr. Ray Griffin, whose most extraordinary book among his 9/11 books is, in my opinion, Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11. It has quite intriguing reflections on good, evil, and science.

Both men were interviewed here in the past on EP.

[I agree it would have been great to talk more with Jay about his background, but we were limited on time for this one. g.]

I feel compelled to mention that Jim Fetzer has shown himself to be unserious and disruptive. Mentioning him alongside David Ray Griffin does a disservice to Griffin.

To be clear, Fetzer pushes the most outlandish and ridiculous theories about the attacks of 911. It's difficult to imagine anyone being more successful as an agent of disruption inside the movement for a new investigation into the attacks of 911 than Fetzer. I'm not saying he literally is COINTELPRO, but that he might as well be, and should be treated as such.

[Well, it's probably fair to say that Fetzer is an unguided missile. Note that early on, when I interviewed him, I did so on David Ray Griffin's recommendation. So nobody's perfect. Neither of these comments, of course, have anything to do with Plato. But that's OK. g.]

As I just noticed his comment, here is my response to douglain:

James Fetzer has been maligned by many in the 9/11 Truth Movement because his zealous and uncompromising pursuit of facts often conflict with consensus ideas and explanations.

Over time, and careful observation, I judge him as a courageous, honorable, and true individual worthy of the greatest respect.

I believe the nature of his lifelong calling can make him appear hostile when his core philosophical beliefs are challenged: no one can accuse him of being bloodless or self-serving.

I find some of his past and present enthusiasms difficult to share, but I can say that about those of almost every leading figure in any realm of thought.

In the main Fetzer's breadth of knowledge and ability to recall complicated histories is quite exceptional. He is a passionate seeker of Truth wherever it is to be looked for or found. His open-mindedness can be mistaken for childlike naivety and patience — but woe to anyone high or low who he ever catches red-handed dissembling (in petty or great ways) with him.

He does not forget!

As for disruptive gatekeepers of 9/11 Truth they do exist.

About them, I defer to Barrie Zwicker, the expert who knows the most on that matter. Like Fetzer, Zwicker is another passionate, indefatigable veteran of the 9/11 truth movement who is oft criticized for asking uncomfortable questions.

[Robert, you get the last word on this. g.]

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