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May 11, 2007

911 Truth

Pentagon lawn after 911So you implement one of the most stupendous black-ops of all time. Considering the multitude of variables, you've put together a fairly convincing cover story that fixes blame on Islamic terrorists. Using the full weight of the political establishment you bulldoze away public discussion of the truth. A complaisant press repeats your lies in a ciclo infinito forte. Though a few malcontents won't buy it, they're marginalized. Then along comes your worst nightmare: a distinguished theologian whose cross-disciplinary specialization involves highly sophisticated reasoning that requires familiarity with logic, science, and the scientific method — a man with no personal vested interest whatsoever (and no way to falsely hang one on him), who digs in tenaciously to ask the right questions, and who becomes a true patriotic hero to many. In short order, despite the media blackout, a very large percentage of the public becomes skeptical. Such is the story of Dr. David Ray Griffin (PDF), a leader of the 911 Truth movement and author most recently of Debunking 9/11 Debunking. We all owe David an enormous debt of gratitude for his insights, energy, and determination. It was a real privilege to talk with him, and I'm sure his balanced views will continue to gain public support. Total runtime here of an hour and thirteen minutes. Listen carefully and please redistribute widely.

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Thank you George Kenney for asking such thoughtful and probing questions — particularly questions often neglected by others about Griffin's definition of the "demonic" and his remarkable book Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11.

I was not disappointed.

We must get to the crux of why the mainstream media and even progressive "Left Gatekeepers" fail to address the topic that was pivotal to giving the a minority of individuals power to pursue their aims.

Although this interview mentions the disintegration of WTC buildings — I am beginning to believe that mankind is in possession of weapons more boggling to the mind than what we have known heretofore. I strongly urge listeners to lay aside prejudices and investigate the findings of Dr. Judy Wood propounded by James Fetzer of Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

Our generation is surely grappling with a Pandora's box of unknowns — but we should never forget the wisdom of the belief that "the truth will always out."

The best question suggested in this program was Griffin's: what will we do when the truth behind 9/11 becomes more widely known?

Quoting my beloved Erich Fromm, the fundamental choice for all of us "is the choice between 'life' and 'death'; between creativity and destructive violence; between reality and illusions; between objectivity and intolerance; between brotherhood-independence and dominance-submission."


Ditto in agreement with the above comments. Very well worded. Thanks for the interview, George. Now I will certainly buy his book.


Great interview George, thanks. I'm passing it around the internet.


Great guest and interview, George.

More comments here:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8501#new


The above comments by R. B. Livingston, especially, those referring to the careful research by Dr. Judy Woods cannot be emphasized enough. The reluctance of many Americans to seriously consider the unrealistic nature of the 'official 9/11 conspiracy' (jargon of D. R. Griffin) relates to the fact that the main stream media (MSM) deliberately do/did a poor job of revealing/reporting the nature of the events surrounding the destruction of the buildings or of the variety of other events on 9/11/01 (e.g., the unethical shorting of stocks of several corporations, the problems related to updating the WTC buildings vis-a-vis asbestos removal, poor level of leasing, and other aspects of WTC operational inefficiency). Dr. Woods photo presentations, combined with her presentation of the underlying engineering and physics of building destruction, cover those aspects of the 9/11 tragedy in great detail; her works explain the differences between the types of building destruction involving WTC 1 and 2 vs. the controlled demolition of WTC 7. Her insistence that directed energy weapons (DEW) may have been involved in some manner will meet great obstacles as the Pentagon is obviously involved in supporting such development as a major component of it's 'Star Wars' missle development programs. Unless the Bush administration were to undergo a change of attitude, the truth of the matter will remain unknown 2009 or later.

In spite of the fact that there is an overwhelming amount of 9/11-related research available on the internet, there continue to be possible points about which people disagree. I would like to encourage one or more members of the activist community to make an effort to enhance public enlightenment by assembling a current, simple, visual (cartoon-containing) presentation of the 'official- vs. most likely-conspiracy theories'.


It's very strange that the minority strand of thought inside the '9/11 Truth movement' aka the exotic weaponry proponents like Dr.Woods/Fetzer immediately jumped on this article in such numbers.

When in fact Dr. Griffin, Steven Jones and most of the movement has distanced from this group some time ago.

On factual ground, their claims have been already refuted for instance in the papers from the Journal of 9/11 Studies and elsewhere. I'm far from accusing them of being intentional saboteurs but their activity has been and still is quite suspicious..

http://stj911.org/journal.html


One of the problems in trying to ascertain the relevance of information being uncovered about 9/11 events is making sense of the numerous controversial theories being argued.

Dr. Griffin did not address recent questions and theories examined by Fetzer and Wood by his statements in this program. He has consistently advocated a comprehensive and real investigation. All serious investigators of 9/11, including James Fetzer and Judy Wood, do not say they know for certain what caused the destruction on 9/11 but agree that a real investigation is needed. (They also have sincere but very troubling questions.)

The above statement that casts doubt upon recent Fetzer and Wood investigations by saying "their activity has been and still is quite suspicious" reminds me of an old saying: "guilty dogs bark first." I have become disenchanted with the narrowness of Steve Jones' research since I first heard him speak in November, 2006.

http://tinyurl.com/335t6e

The bandwagon argument is itself suspicious having nothing whatsoever to do with ascertaining truth.

Further, I have no knowledge whatsoever that Dr. Griffin is distancing himself from anyone (rather than supporting everyone) who sincerely wishes to understand how 9/11 happened — including James Fetzer and Judy Wood. If Griffin is, I would like to hear the evidence.


Dr. Judy Wood is the only scientist speaking up for what really happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Her directed energy weapon theory is based on simple scientific evidence. Yes, I do mean simple! All she wants people to do is look at the data:
http://www.drjudywood.com

Dr. Wood is a former Professor of Mechanical Engineering from Clemson University who graduated from Virginia Tech with a PhD in Materials Engineering Science and is therefore more than qualified.

Judy's evidence speaks for itself and is easily understood by most people who look at it. All she wants is for people to look at the data!

Dr. Judy Wood filed an official Request for Correction (RFC) with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) citing fraud and deception in the 9/11 NIST Report.

Her RFC, along with its two Supplements, are archived on the official US Government Department of Commerce website. In her RFC Wood clearly explains how NIST misled the public with their report. She also shows evidence for directed energy weapon usage.

In Dr. Wood's first Supplement, she exposes the fact that NIST contracted with a major manufacturer of directed energy weapons for the 9/11 NIST Report.

The company in question, Applied Research Associates (ARA), is not only a manufacturer of directed energy weapons, but is also a founding sponsor of Directed Energy Professional Society (DEPS).

DEPS, founded in 1999, put out their first newsletter one year before 9/11. An excerpt from this newsletter is as follows:

"Lasers in space, lasers in the stratosphere, lasers
on and over the battlefield — we're at the
beginning of an evolutionary new wave of weaponry."

http://www.deps.org/DEPSpages/graphics/wavefront2.pdf

More recently Dr. Wood and her attorney revealed that another company NIST contacted with for their Report, Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), is also a manufacturer of directed energy weapons.

In Dr. Wood's second Supplement she explains that testimony given by Emergency Medical Technician Patricia Ondrovic during the WTC Task Force Interview is consistent with directed energy weapon evidence usage at the World Trade Center.

Dr. Wood is represented by popular attorney Jerry Leaphart.

Judy has done more for the real truth of 9/11 than anyone and she deserves our complete support. All she wants is for people to look at the data!


Mr.Kenney, I enjoyed your interview with Dr.Griffin. He's a good person.

Here's an article about radiation discovered at the Pentagon:

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/06/22/01624.html


Quack "doctors"

Judy Wood is a fraud, whose ideas have been exposed as complete nonsense. When asked in radio interviews about the "dustification" of steel from "directed energy", her answer was to think about putting a fork in a microwave oven. That's the extent of her "serious" investigation.

Fetzer has promoted these directed energy nonsense weapons taking out the WTC towers (FROM OUTER SPACE!), and other bizarre theories with no basis in the evidence.

These two should be avoided like the plague.

Nice how the hundreds of eyewitnesses seeing and hearing "explosions" is rendered completely irrelevant by the alien technology space based zapper gun theory!

These people are playing you for fools, if you fall for this crap. They are similarly tarring us all with the brush of "whack job" and "nutcase," that appears regularly in the established press.

This is serious business, a deliberate smear campaign to mark us as idiots. Do not for a second fall for these buffoons because of supposed credentials.

Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/


I completely agree with John Doraemi's assessment. Judy Wood and James Fetzer are disinformation agents, and not very good ones either, but for some strange reason they receive strong personal support for their work wherever 911 truth is discussed on the internet. As we witness in some of the comments here.


Calling someone a disinformation agent without providing any evidence is a clear indication of who the disinfo agents really are.

If Judy Wood's directed energy weapon evidence is truly disinformation, then why did the Director of Public Affairs at the Directed Energy Directorate — Air Force Research Laboratory, Kirtland AFB, NM, say that Dr Wood's investigation is...

"interesting and worthy of further consideration"

?

Here's a copy of the FAX sent to Dr Wood's attorney, Jerry Leaphart:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Garcia_letter.html

After 8 years suspecting the official story wrong, it is refreshing to find this professional interview full of facts. Thank You!

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